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AMD Product Support

The Catalyst™ Vista driver for both the 32bit and 64bit versions of the Microsoft Windows Vista operating system is supported on the following ATI Radeon™ products.
AMD Desktop Product Family Support for both Windows Vista and XP AMD Desktop Product Family Support
ATI Radeon™ HD 4800 series
ATI Radeon™ X1300 series
ATI Radeon™ HD 3800 series
ATI Radeon™ X1050 series
ATI Radeon™ HD 3600 series
ATI Radeon™ X850 series
ATI Radeon™ HD 3400 series
ATI Radeon™ X800 series
ATI Radeon™ HD 2900 series
ATI Radeon™ X700 series
ATI Radeon™ HD 2600 series
ATI Radeon™ X600 series
ATI Radeon™ HD 2400 series
ATI Radeon™ X550 series
ATI Radeon™ X1950 series
ATI Radeon™ X300 series
ATI Radeon™ X1900 series
ATI Radeon™ 9800 series
ATI Radeon™ X1800 series
ATI Radeon™ 9700 series
ATI Radeon™ X1650 series
ATI Radeon™ 9600 series
ATI Radeon™ X1600 series
ATI Radeon™ 9550 series
ATI Radeon™ X1550 series
ATI Radeon™ 9500 series
AMD Multimedia Family Product Support for both Windows Vista and XP AMD Multimedia Family Product Support
ATI All-in-Wonder™ X1900 Series
ATI Theater 600™
ATI All-in-Wonder™ X1800 Series
ATI All-in-Wonder™ X600 Series
ATI All-in-Wonder™ 2006 Edition
ATI Theater™ 550 PRO
ATI All-in-Wonder™ X800 Series
ATI All-in-Wonder™ 9800 Series
ATI Theater 650™
ATI All-in-Wonder™ 9600 Series
Note: ATI All-in-Wonder™ boards operate with AMD's Windows Vista ready display and capture drivers under the Windows Vista operating system. However, the Windows Vista Media Center application does not support TV/Capture functionality provided by the ATI All-in-Wonder™. TV/Capture functionality is qualified to function with Snaptream's BeyondTV 4.6 for Windows Vista. Other third party solutions (such as Arcsoft's Total Media 3) may support TV/Capture with the ATI All-in-Wonder™, but these applications have not been fully tested by AMD.
AMD Chipset Product Support AMD Chipset Product Support
ATI Radeon™ HD 3200 Series
AMD 580X Series Chipset
ATI Radeon™ HD 3100 Series
ATI Radeon™ Xpress 1150 Series
ATI Radeon™ HD 2100 Series
ATI Radeon™ Xpress 1100 Series
ATI Radeon™ Xpress 1250 Series
ATI Radeon™ Xpress 200 Series
ATI Radeon™ X1250 Series
AMD 690 Series Chipset
ATI Radeon™ X1200 Series


Operating systems supported

The latest version of the Catalyst™ software suite is designed to support the following Microsoft Windows platforms:

* Windows Vista (32 and 64 bit versions)
* Windows XP Professional
* Windows XP Home Edition
* Windows XP Media Center Edition
* Windows XP Professional x64 Edition

Note: When installing the Catalyst™ Vista driver for Windows Vista, the user must logged on as an Administrator or have Administrator rights in order to successfully complete the installation of the Catalyst™ Vista driver.
New Features

Catalyst™ 8.7 introduces the following new features:

* Catalyst Control Center: Information Center enhancements
* Support for new Linux operating systems

Catalyst Control Center: Information Center enhancements

This release of Catalyst™ introduces an enhancement to the Catalyst Control Center Information Center. Full Hardware information will be shown for each physical graphics accelerator installed in the system.
Support for new Linux operating systems

This release of ATI Catalyst™ Linux introduces preview support for the following new operating systems:

* Ubuntu 8.04 production support
* SLED 10 sp2 production support

Performance Improvements

The following performance gains are noticed with this release of Catalyst™.

* 3DMark Vantage: Performance increases of up to 20% is noticed in the Performance Preset on single card configured systems when using ATI Radeon™ HD 36xx or ATI Radeon™ HD 34xx products
* Company of Heroes DX10: Performance increases of 3% to 12% is noticed in specific maps on single card configured systems when using either an ATI Radeon™ HD 48xx, ATI Radeon ™ HD 38xx, or an ATI Radeon™ HD 36xx product
* Lost Planet DX10: Performance increases of 4% to 15% is noticed in specific maps on single card configured systems when using either an ATI Radeon™ HD 48xx, ATI Radeon™ HD 38xx, or an ATI Radeon™ HD 36xx product
* Call Of Duty 4 DX9: Performance increases of up to 4% in specific maps is noticed on single card configured systems when using an ATI Radeon™ HD 48xx product
* Lost Planet DX9: CrossFire™ scaling improves up to 1.7x and performance increases up to 80% across all Radeon™ products when AA and AF is enabled

ATI's Folding@Home

Folding@Home is a distributed computing project designed by the Stanford University. The application performs intensive simulations of protein folding. This simulation will help researchers uncover how certain diseases develop. Folding@Home uses distributed computing to simulate protein folding, the workload is broken up into small work units and distributed across hundreds of thousands of computers over the internet. You can help find the cure to many different diseases! To join Folding@Home, follow these steps:

1. Download ATI's Catalyst™ software suite
2. Download the Folding@Home GPU client application
Note: The latest GPU client supports the ATI Radeon™ HD 3xx0 series of products only.
3. Enter the ATI team number 51394 and start folding!

For more information on Folding@Home visit: Stream Computing with ATI Radeon products Drive Bio-Medical Research at Stanford University
Resolved Issues for the Windows Vista Operating System

Resolved Issues for the Windows XP Operating System

This section provides information on resolved issues in this release of the ATI Catalyst™ Software Suite for Windows XP. These include:

* City of Heroes: Character stretching and double character reflection is no longer noticed when the in-game resolution is set to 2560x1600. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35757
* Enemy Territories Quake Wars: Flickering is no longer noticed when playing the game with CrossFire™ enabled on systems containing an ATI Radeon™ HD 38x0 series of product. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35788
* Lost Planet: Corruption is no longer noticed when switching between the game and the Windows XP desktop. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35782
* Google SketchUp: The Push/Pull tool no longer fails to select some faces. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35800
* World of Warcraft: Enabling AA in the Catalyst Control Center no longer results in the user failing to log on to the game. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35816
* Installing the display driver from an installation CD no longer results in a warning message indicating that the Catalyst Control Center is not supported by the driver version installed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35120
* Playing a standard definition DVD using the Windows Media Player (hardware acceleration enabled) no longer results in the operating system failing to respond when attempting to rotate the display. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35875
* Intermittent flashing is no longer noticed in the right portion of the display when playing a 720p or 1080i media file when using the Windows Media Player v10. Further details can be found in topic number 737-32666
* Playing a DVD title and selecting the option to use basic color setting to default in the Catalyst Control Center now results in the option being applied. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35803
* Playing an MPEG2 video clip on a display that is rotated no longer results in corruption being noticed when rotating the display back to landscape mode. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35805

Resolved Issues for the Windows XP Professional x64 Edition Operating System

This section provides information on resolved issues in this release of the ATI Catalyst™ Software Suite for Windows XP Professional x64 Edition. These include:

* Gears of War: Enabling CrossFire™ and AA may result in white flickering corruption being noticed when playing the game under Windows XP Professional x64 Edition. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35123

Known Issues Under the Windows XP Operating System

The following section provides a summary of open issues that may be experienced under the Windows XP operating system in the latest version of Catalyst™. These include:

* Age of Conan: The inventory icons may show corruption when playing the game with CrossFire™ enabled. This issue may also be experienced under the Windows Vista operating system as well. Further details can be found in topic number 737-34825
* Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts: Enabling CrossFire™ may result in the displays flashing corruption when setting the in game graphics options to off or their lowest settings. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35118
* Witcher: Enabling AA and setting the in-game options to their maximum levels may result in background colors being missing and the game play back being choppy. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35898
* Using the WinDVD player (versions 14.x, 11.10x, or 9.xx) to play VC1 video content may result in corruption being noticed when hardware acceleration is enabled. This issue may also be experienced under the Windows Vista operating system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35293
* Connecting a CRT display device as the secondary display and playing a Blu-ray DVD using a Cyberlink player may result in no video playback if extended desktop mode is enabled. Further details can be found in topic number 737-30587
* Connecting a Dual Link Panel to the on-board DVI port, followed by hot plugging a DVI display to the add-on DVI card may result in clone mode becoming disabled when rebooting the machine and the secondary display device remaining blank. Further details can be found in topic number 737-31166
* Setting the display resolution to 1440x900 or lower may result in corruption being noticed when playing a DVD title. Further details can be found in topic number 737-31168
* Connecting a CRT display device as the secondary display and playing a Blu-ray DVD using a Cyberlink player may result in no video playback if extended desktop mode is enabled. Further details can be found in topic number 737-34121
* The display may be come corrupted with 4 bit color depth after hot unplugging the rotated primary HDMI/DFP display. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35116
* Connecting a Dual Link Panel to the on-board DVI port, followed by hot plugging a DVI display to the add-on DVI card may result clone mode becoming disabled when rebooting the machine and the secondary display device remaining blank. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35117
* Installing the HDMI audio driver and the VIA audio chipset driver may results in a compatibility issue being noticed and a yellow exclamation mark showing up in the Sound, Video and Game Controllers. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35119
* Catalyst Control Center: Configuring a system with multi-adapters may result in an error message being displayed when running the Test Custom Clocks 737-29953
* Enabling pull down detection in the Catalyst Control Center may result in flickering being noticed when playing a video clip using the Cyberlink PowerDVD player. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35121
* Connecting a CRT display device as the secondary display and playing a Blu-ray DVD using a Cyberlink player may result in no video playback if extended desktop mode is enabled. Further details can be found in topic number 737-35122

Known Issues Under the Windows XP Professional x64 Edition

The following section provides a summary of open issues that may be experienced under the Windows XP Professional x64 Edition operating system in the latest version of Catalyst™. These include:

* Running an OpenGL application and attempting to rotate the desktop may result in corruption being noticed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29556

For further information and general help on software driver installation, game issues, and more, visit ATI Customer Care.
Installing the Catalyst™ Vista Software Driver

Installation information can be found at: ati.amd.com
AMD Customer Care

The AMD Customer Care website provides a high level of technical support and ease of navigation. The AMD Customer Care website provides accurate and up-to-date product support for optimum usability and performance. Technical issues are categorized and personalized to enhance user experience. The AMD Customer Care Website can be found at: support.ati.com

To view a known issue or find troubleshooting information, do the following:

1. Go to ati.amd.com. The AMD home page is displayed.
2. Click on Support & Drivers. The AMD Support and Drivers web page is displayed.
3. In the left hand pane, select Graphics Support.
4. In the top right corner of the Graphics Support page, enter the topic number or a general description of the issue you are experiencing within the search field.
5. In the Select Site field, select ATI.
6. Click the SEARCH symbol.
The information requested (if available) is displayed.

Catalyst™ Crew Driver Feedback

This driver release incorporates suggestions received through the Catalyst™ CREW Driver Feedback program. To provide us with your feedback, visit: Catalyst™ Crew Driver Feedback.



Get them here : AMD GAME Drivers & Tools

[Robert McClelland]

To ATI Gang I can't work these drivers on my VisionTek 2600 AGP PRO card at all. You for get added that in the set. If not Sadly I have wait for VisonTek support

[Rosco[CoF]]

Interesting that you say that Robert. I used the Cat 8.6 (not Hotfix) on my HD 3850 AGP card and they worked flawlessly. Have you tried those?

[Robert McClelland]

Ya I'm using VisionTek 8.6n drivers from there web site so I have to wait for new hotfix.
Here my card
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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 2600 Series AGP
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor AGP (0x9587)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9587&SUBSYS_00281545&REV_00
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (16 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6822 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 6/2/2008 22:21:06, 306688 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: No
WHQL Date Stamp: None
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 6/3/2008 01:20:54, 3100160 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D6C7-11CF-536C-2220A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x9587
SubSys ID: 0x00281545
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV8_A ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK

[Rosco[CoF]]

That is odd, I wonder why the 2600 doesn't get any love from the drivers? My 3850 AGP ran great with the stock 8.6 Cat's. Yours isn't the first I've heard of it either, and it's always the 2600 AGP. Mine is a Sapphire, they offered a special driver for the AGP version of the 3850, and I discovered it was nothing more then just the plain ATI 8.6 Hotfix driver. Keep an eye on it here, this should be the first place a AGP hotfix shows up for you, I hope.

AMD Customer Care

[T.N.G.O.G.]

Hey robert i am curious about something, do you mind install pcwizard 2008 and once install go to the opengl tab and post the information for your card.

[Robert McClelland]

Is this it?
General Information :
Manufacturer : ATI Technologies Inc.
Version : 2.1.7659 Release
Renderer : ATI Radeon HD 2600 Series AGP
Acceleration : No, Software

Extensions :
GL_AMDX_vertex_shader_tessel... Yes
GL_AMD_performance_monitor : Yes
GL_ARB_depth_texture : Yes
GL_ARB_draw_buffers : Yes
GL_ARB_fragment_program : Yes
GL_ARB_fragment_shader : Yes
GL_ARB_multisample : Yes
GL_ARB_multitexture : Yes
GL_ARB_occlusion_query : Yes
GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object : Yes
GL_ARB_point_parameters : Yes
GL_ARB_point_sprite : Yes
GL_ARB_shader_objects : Yes
GL_ARB_shading_language_100 : Yes
GL_ARB_shadow : Yes
GL_ARB_shadow_ambient : Yes
GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp : Yes
GL_ARB_texture_compression : Yes
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map : Yes
GL_ARB_texture_env_add : Yes
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine : Yes
GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar : Yes
GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 : Yes
GL_ARB_texture_float : Yes
GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat : Yes
GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_... Yes
GL_ARB_texture_rectangle : Yes
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix : Yes
GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object : Yes
GL_ARB_vertex_program : Yes
GL_ARB_vertex_shader : Yes
GL_ARB_window_pos : Yes
GL_ATI_draw_buffers : Yes
GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap : Yes
GL_ATI_fragment_shader : Yes
GL_ATI_meminfo : Yes
GL_ATI_separate_stencil : Yes
GL_ATI_texture_compression_3dc : Yes
GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 : Yes
GL_ATI_texture_float : Yes
GL_EXT_abgr : Yes
GL_EXT_bgra : Yes
GL_EXT_blend_color : Yes
GL_EXT_blend_func_separate : Yes
GL_EXT_blend_minmax : Yes
GL_EXT_blend_subtract : Yes
GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array : Yes
GL_EXT_copy_texture : Yes
GL_EXT_draw_range_elements : Yes
GL_EXT_fog_coord : Yes
GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit : Yes
GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample : Yes
GL_EXT_framebuffer_object : Yes
GL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB : Yes
GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters : Yes
GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays : Yes
GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil : Yes
GL_EXT_packed_float : Yes
GL_EXT_packed_pixels : Yes
GL_EXT_point_parameters : Yes
GL_EXT_rescale_normal : Yes
GL_EXT_secondary_color : Yes
GL_EXT_separate_specular_color : Yes
GL_EXT_shadow_funcs : Yes
GL_EXT_stencil_wrap : Yes
GL_EXT_subtexture : Yes
GL_EXT_texgen_reflection : Yes
GL_EXT_texture3D : Yes
GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3... Yes
GL_EXT_texture_cube_map : Yes
GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp : Yes
GL_EXT_texture_env_add : Yes
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine : Yes
GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 : Yes
GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic : Yes
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias : Yes
GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp : Yes
GL_EXT_texture_object : Yes
GL_EXT_texture_rectangle : Yes
GL_EXT_texture_sRGB : Yes
GL_EXT_texture_shared_exponent : Yes
GL_EXT_vertex_array : Yes
GL_KTX_buffer_region : Yes
GL_NV_blend_square : Yes
GL_NV_texgen_reflection : Yes
GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap : Yes
GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp : Yes
GL_SGIS_texture_lod : Yes
GL_WIN_swap_hint : Yes
WGL_EXT_swap_control : Yes
General Information :
Place : c:\windows\system32
Driver : opengl32.dll
Size : 697 KB ( 713 728 bytes)

Properties :
Version : 5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-0845)
Description : OpenGL Client DLL
Copyright : © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Original Filename : opengl32
Product Name : Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
Internal Name : opengl32
Organisation : Microsoft Corporation
Product Version : 5.1.2600.5512
Type : Application Extension

Extended Information :
Build for : Windows NT, 32-bit
Created : Thursday 08 April 2004
Modified : Monday 14 April 2008
Accessed : Tuesday 22 July 2008

Texture Information :
Maximum Texture Size : 8192 x 8192

General Information :
Manufacturer : ATI Technologies Inc (Visiontek)
Model : ATI Radeon HD 2600 Series AGP
Bus Type : AGP
Total Memory : 512 MB
Texture Memory : 564 MB
Processor : ATI Radeon Graphics Processor AGP (0x9587)
Converter : Internal DAC(400MHz)
Refresh Rate (min/max) : 56/75 Hz

GPU Information :
Number of GPU : 1
Memory Type : SDRAM
GPU Frequency : 601 MHz - [initial : 601 MHz]
Memory Frequency GPU : 405 MHz - [initial : 405 MHz]
Pixel Shader Version : 3.0

GPU Configuration :
Technology CrossFire : No

Video Bios Information :
Date : 07/05/07
ID : 113-AB31200-100-IT
Catalyst : 8.501.0.0

General Features :
Width : 337 mm
Height : 270 mm
Pixel per inch : 96x96 dpi
bits per pixel : 16
Colour Bits/Planes : 1
Brushes : 4294967295
Pens : 4294967295
Markers : 0
Device Fonts : 0
Device Colours : 4294967295
Clip Output to Rectangle : Yes
Hardware Acceleration : Yes

Blend and Shade Capabilities :
GradientFill Rectangle : No
GradientFill Traingle : No
Per Pixel AlphaBlend : Yes
Premultiplied Alpha : No

Raster Capabilities :
Banding : No
Transfer Bitmaps : Yes
Bitmap >64 KB : Yes
Fonts larger than 64 K : Yes
DIBs : Yes
DIBTODEV : Yes
Flood Fills : Yes
Scaling : No
StretchBlt : Yes
StretchDIB : Yes

Curves Capabilities :
Chord Arcs : Yes
Circles : Yes
Elipses : Yes
Interiors : Yes
Pie Wedges : Yes
Rounded Rectangles : Yes
Styled Borders : Yes
Wide Borders : Yes
Wide, Styled Borders : Yes

Lines Capabilities :
Interiors : Yes
Markers : Yes
Polylines : Yes
Polymarkers : Yes
Styled : Yes
Wide : Yes
Wide, Styled : Yes

Polygonal Capabilities :
Interiors : Yes
Alternate Fill Polygons : Yes
Winding Fill Polygons : Yes
Rectangles : Yes
Scan Lines : Yes
Styled Borders : Yes
Wide Borders : Yes
Wide, Styled Borders : Yes

Text Capabilities :
Stroke Precision : Yes
Stroke Clip Precision : Yes
90° Character Rotation : No
Any Angle Character Rotation : No
Independent X-Y Scaling : No
Double Weighted Characters : No
Italic : No
Underline : Yes
Strikeout : Yes
Raster Fonts : Yes
Vector Fonts : Yes

Color Management Capabilities :
CMYK : No
Gamma Ramp : Yes
ICM Device : No

[Rosco[CoF]]

The 8.7 AGP hotfix has been released

AMD Customer Care

[Robert McClelland]

Just in time I was going nuts lol

[Robert McClelland]

Good news they work sad news I lost 50 points hehe I scored 7496 in 3dmark03 I can't run 06 it's not fast enough for this system. I guest I wait to see when vision tek lease there out

[Spyre]

The 2400, 2600 and 3850 AGP cards will always need the hotfix drivers or ones from your card manufacturer, since they are not official AMD/ATI products.

[Rosco[CoF]]

Originally Posted by Spyre

The 2400, 2600 and 3850 AGP cards will always need the hotfix drivers or ones from your card manufacturer, since they are not official AMD/ATI products.

Spyre,
It is interesting that you say this. My HD3850 AGP ran perfectly fine w/o the hotfix. I tested with both D3D and OpenGL games including HL, UT, STALKER and tested with 3DMark '06 and Lightsmark 2007. They all worked flawlessly for me using the vanilla 8.6 Catalyst.

But I present to you this question. Does one install the 8.7 Catalyst and then apply the 8.7 Hotfix? Or are the AGP users supposed to only install the Hotfix as the driver alone? I have heard if you install Hotfix alone you do not get the CCC.

[mkk]

The AGP Hotfixes include the CCC. I'd guess that people who do not get the CCC installed may have been running some leaked driver before, and could try simply running the 8.7 hotfix installation once more.

[Rosco[CoF]]

Originally Posted by mkk

The AGP Hotfixes include the CCC. I'd guess that people who do not get the CCC installed may have been running some leaked driver before, and could try simply running the 8.7 hotfix installation once more.

Thank you for the 411. Now I guess my next Q would be, why did the 8.6's run fine for me w/o the hotfix? Do I run a risk of damaging my 3850 AGP by running it without the hotfix?

[Robert McClelland]

I think you should run the hot fix be safe. Does his have there own drivers?

[mkk]

The hotfixes are for users that experience basic problems with the regular driver so if the regular 8.6 driver works well enough with your card you can just try the regular 8.7 as well. Perhaps your 3850AGP has the same ID as regular 3850's and is then accepted by the regular ATI driver.

[Rosco[CoF]]

Originally Posted by Robert McClelland

I think you should run the hot fix be safe. Does his have there own drivers?

I don't know about HIS, mine is a Sapphire. But I do know that Sapphire did release theirs today for the 3800 AGP
Edit:
I stand corrected. The links all show 8.7 and I downloaded them, but the zipped files are all 8.6.

By the way, my latest results with the 8.6 on this ol' AGP system was 7679
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=7446832

Not bad seeing my previous best was 3637 with a nVidia 7800GS, my previous AGP card.

I got the 8.7 AGP hotfix downloaded from ATI, I'll try those, as soon as I get my card back from NewEgg. It crapped out on me 3 days after I bought it, which is why I was wondering if running the vanilla drivers would damage a AGP card.

[T.N.G.O.G.]

Robert, i am glad the problem is fix, but

" Acceleration : No, Software "

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